A + D ARTIST SPOTLIGHT: WILLIE LITTLE

Willie LittleAn Interview with artist Wilie Little

by Art + Dialogue intern Maddie Fritz

M: How has your style developed through the years and how did you, as an artist, arrive at the works that are featured in the show?

W: My works have evolved rather organically. I have always been a process driven artist where silent objects spoke to me, but my work and style evolved as I began creating works that celebrated who I am and where I come from and try to make sense out of my life. And that first exhibit, which ironically has been my most successful exhibit, was Juke Joint in 1995, that exhibit was about my father’s house, and traveling around the country. After that exhibit, I created other works that were confirming, but, what happened, my work began to evolve and I began to look at the world and how I would explore its social and cultural issues and that started in 1999. So I had a residency at the McCall Center and at that time I had been selected to have a residency at Kwa Zulu Natal, South Africa, and that residency, the theme of the residency, was called baggage. And what happened in 1999 was the highly publicized case called the Diallo case it was a fifteen-year-old African immigrant who was shot by four NYC policemen and his name is Diallo. So I had the issue of gun violence on the brain as I went to South Africa, and at the time everyone had created work with that scene. I made limited edition prints that were about American baggage: America’s sense of self-righteousness, America’s sense of rights of entitlement, and how Americans use the Bible as a crutch to justify bigotry and hatred, as opposed to the 20th-century, so I used shopping bags as a metaphor for the American baggage, so that was kind of that catalyst that took me to create subtle works that had a powerful message so that they [viewers] couldn’t put it out of their heads and that got me into making social and political works.

M: Many artists draw on events that happened to them or during their lifetime. Do you use history as inspiration?

W: Yes, and that’s what art is about because artists in history have always responded to things that happened historically and that’s when you learn, that’s how so many people learn about history, through self-expression of artists.

M: How did you become an artist and are there specific life events that have impacted your work and/or contributed to your evolution as an artist?

W: Yes, there were three specific life events, one was in 1968, second was 1974, and the third one was 2008. I’ll start with 1968. I was born in rural NC, known as the sticks, but we called it Little Washington. In 1968, NC was thrust into desegregation. And my class, the class of 1968, was the test or guinea pig group used for desegregation. Now, I was one of the beneficiaries, I think I benefited from desegregation and that I kind of accelerated in that environment, however I was still totally affected by the harsh treatment; it was horrific.

The second thing that happened was in 1974, I had really close brushes with Civil Rights Protests, and Joan Little, I don’t know if you know about this case, Joan Little was my father’s cousin and she was tried with killing a jailer in Washington; she had stabbed him in self-defense because he had assaulted her sexually and this ignited a national civil rights protest. Then, I was too young to go to the protests in Washington, but what happened was, it was on national TV, and the reverend Ralph Abernathy of the SCLC [Southern Christian Leadership Conference] came to lead the protests and I was about eight and my sister was 16 and she said, “Martin Luther King marched on Washington and we’re going to march on Little Washington!” and I had wanted to go so bad, but I’ve never forgotten the impact of the racial divide and what was going on around me. All this activity was right there on TV, Walter Cronkite was talking about this thing and everyone was marching.

And then, in 2008, you know, the 44th president of the United States was elected and he was black, I was like “Wow, this is so great and this is going to change the racial divide.” But, I was wrong. I was upset by the backlash, the rise of the Tea Party, the voter suppression, even in NC, and how the Congress and the Senate were behaving. I saw the rallies and the signs of hatred that were associated with Jesus and being touted by the tea baggers; signs saying things like, “We want to take our country, America, back!” and I was like “From whom?” and at what cost, I asked. I wanted to figure out what can I say, and it took me a while to figure out how to create something to express my disdain and my passions, so I actually wrote and received a grant from the Pollock Krasner Foundation in 2010 and that was when I started creating the work called ‘In the Hood.’ That was a labor of love. The first thing I created was the tea bagger gown composed of over a thousand tea bags that I had sewn together. I soon had health setbacks in 2013, I had kind of a life threatening illness and I couldn’t finish the works at that time.

Then in 2014, a new gallery wanted to feature my art and I had a successful continuation of funds to finish the exhibit. Part of this exhibit is this show, and it’s layered with satire and metaphor and the question I’m asking is “which hood?” What I love about what I tried to create is that I’m merging the Tea Party with popular hip hop and it’s this farcical parody and juxtaposition of this unlikely pair. The union of the KKK and the culture which they hate so much. It became a sort of metaphorical nightmare, pairing hip hop bling with the Tea Party and KKK iconography, I found that it just grabbed viewers’ attention.

Those were really the three pivotal events that got me to where I am now, because, like I said, I have to have art to deal with and express myself regarding the social dilemmas in America today.

M: The theme being racial tension in America, and the Art + Dialogue goal of uniting the arts and community in an exchange of ideas, do you have anything to say about connecting with the other featured artists?

W: I’m actually really happy to be presented in the same show with these other artists because I know much of the other artists are going to be much younger than me. And I’m really happy to see the youth going back to voice their opinions through social media and protesting and having something to say. What I would like to say, is really, do not forget the history of the struggle of this country, whether you’re black or white, or you’re gay or straight, or, you know, wherever you come from. But, also, find your unique voice, your unique gift, and share that with an audience. And that will do well with anybody that is a creative person. Once I started doing socio-political work, I haven’t stopped. And that’s always been a struggle, because I’ve always been trying to push the envelope. So when I see something that makes people feel uncomfortable, but expresses an idea in the most clever way, that’s what I really like. You know, how does it seduce the artist in either the most subtle way or the most over-the-top way. Which I notice a lot of younger artists are doing, and that’s what I really wanted to do with this work, you know, it’s so farcical, how hip hop is blended with the clan, so I hope that will garner some viewers’ attention.

Willie Little has work in collections around the globe and some of his pieces will be featured in the Art + Dialogue show in the Cowan Humanities Building at Greensboro College.

For more information on Willie Little and his work, please visit www.willielittle.com

A + D ARTIST SPOTLIGHT: ANTOINE WILLIAMS

Antoine WilliamsAn Interview with artist Antoine Williams

by Art + Dialogue intern Maddie Fritz

M: How has your style developed through the years and how did you, as an artist, arrive at the works that are featured in the show?

A: So, I started out being interested in science fiction, like watching graphic manga, beginning to get into hip hop and street art culture, and from there, I got into politics. Really just the combination of all three together: hip hop, science fiction, and politics. I began to incorporate these into my work and sought to satisfy all three. I drew figures from TV and from graffiti, and draw inspiration from industrial surfaces and found objects which have a socioeconomic or racial attachment to them. This show and its subject matter is really an extension of the work I already do. I kind of already made work about race and class, as an artist, you get to be around all types of people, so I’m really interested in that. This show is my practice.

M: How did you become an artist and are there specific life events that have impacted your work and/or contributed to your evolution as an artist?

A: I think I’ve always been a creative person, over time you come to realize that you’re an artist, and once you realize it you can do something with it. Honestly, I’ve always made work, but I think my work starts to get more political after the 2000 election, like when Bush didn’t win but he got elected, I thought something was weird about that, and then 9/11, where I would see things on television, and I would see an US tank blow up an Iraqi hospital, but then the news would talk about it as if it wasn’t a bad thing. And then you’d hear  politicians blatantly lie in the news. You know, what I would see with my eyes and what was being reported, I felt that something was wrong. I started to get more interested in why these things were happening like this. And as a grew up, there were things that I noticed, but when you’re young, you know, you hear things like, “black people aren’t that smart” or “black people aren’t as good at math” and then it would be explained away as “they have smaller brains” and I was thinking, you know, that can’t be true, but I didn’t know why. Why was it that a lot of people I knew were locked up? And it’s not because they were bad people, but they still ended up in jail. My art is me trying to figure that stuff out. Maybe a specific moment would be 9/11, but all my life I had these questions and they were all about race. But yeah, I’ve always had those questions and through my art I’ve tried to answer them or address them.

We’ve been made to believe that there’s one history. Take the Civil War, you’ve got an entirely different history when it’s told through the eyes of female slaves. In my work, I like to research these subjects and find out these things and then try to identify with them in a way. Like, why does America lock up so many more people? And let’s talk about that from the perspective of someone who can be one of those people. And this is perspective that you don’t see a lot. Or often not at all in mainstream society, or even in art.

M: Is there anything you want to tell young people who are growing up with and facing this level of racial tension in their country? Also, is it that racial violence is broadcast more often or because the violence is more prevalent?

A: It’s not more prevalent, white cops have been killing black people since there were black people in America. I think this goes into perspective. You talk to a lot of black people and they’ll tell you that this is nothing new. Black people have been saying the exact same thing, a lot of these cops are crooked and a lot of these cops beat people up. Mainstream society does not listen and it’s not until they actually, it’s sad, but you have to get it on camera for people to see. Because of technology, I think that’s what’s changed, now we’ve got the technology for people to see it. And I’m interested in, now that people are seeing it, what’s next? What are we going to do to change our lives, what part of this is going to be used as a political tool, is this going to lead to progress? I think that oftentimes with race, the conversation in mainstream society is not often with young people, but you go to tumblr or twitter and you’re able to have more nuanced conversations. And that’s why I think a lot of young people can benefit. 

So, with young people, I mean, need to put your voice out there and I wouldn’t be afraid to say what we feel. But, there’s a lot of venues, and often times I don’t think people look at art as a venue to put out things they want to say. I think oftentimes it’s easy to feel isolated and as if you are all alone in the world. There’s other people out there. But yeah, I think they just have to keep on. And also, they need to have, like, I mean I’m thirty-five so, I guess that sixteen-year-old will have to deal with that pain and maybe I won’t. But, I think, you know, I was talking about nuance, but the bigger issue really is structural changes, like racism. Past structural changes are why a lot of these young black people are being killed by cops. I feel even, more of a shift towards that, rather than like intra/interpersonal, because that’s what’s going to matter. You bring in a disproportionate number of black and latino out of poverty, and give them more education, more opportunity, and all of these things matter, but it’s a hard conversation. For young people of color, it’s just important to have these kinds of conversations. For young black people, it’s like, don’t be afraid to have these conversations. I think we’re in a new realm because we have this technology that we didn’t have before. Oftentimes I think of how things would have been different, like the Civil Rights Movement. The struggle is not going to look like what it did in 1954, the problem is there a lot of people who are still stuck there. And it’s like, no, it’s going to look different and we may have the same problems. A lot of young people don’t learn anything and that’s one of the frustrations that comes in. Media still comes into play. Like, when Obama said the n-word, people were just shocked that he said the n-word, rather than what he was talking about. And that’s a very old way of thinking. You know, younger people don’t care as much. But yeah, I’m ranting, I hope somewhere in there there’s an answer.

M:  How does your work ignite these conversations that are so necessary?

A: Well, yeah, and here’s what I try to do with my work: so I have these creatures and I want them to suggest a certain ethnicity and a certain class, right? But I also want to suggest a certain mood. So I may want something to look somewhat threatening or suggest something’s in peril. [Regarding his work ‘North Charleston’] I hope that there’s a certain tension in that piece. That piece is about interactions that a lot of black people have with cops and that tension that happens there. So if you’re not black or you just have a great relationship with cops, I can tell you all day how horrible that is, but some people just can’t relate because, you know, they’ve never been there. But, I think, tension, people understand fear. People understand joy and happiness. I’m trying to, through my personal experiences or experiences that I can relate to, I’m trying to translate through universal emotions of fear, pain. I think people can understand that. You may not know what it’s like to be pulled over by a cop, but everyone still understands fear. And that’s what I’m trying to get across. I’m not necessarily trying to answer the question, but am trying to put things out there. So, I want people to have a more gut response to my work and then let’s talk about that. It’s hard to convince people that ‘cops treat me differently’ but it’s much easier to communicate fear. If this induces fear, then that’s what I’m feeling, that’s what it’s like.


Antoine Williams has original work featured in the Art + Dialogue show in the Cowan Humanities Building at Greensboro College.

For more information on Antoine Williams and his work, please visit www.rawgoods.org.


Art + Dialogue:  Responding to Racial Tension in America

Sept. 24 – Oct. 11  @  Greensboro College

Art + Dialogue (A + D) is a collaborative project bringing community together using visual art as the catalyst for dialogues around racial tension in America. A + D aspires to make the issue of race and racial tensions more tangible to its audiences and participants and promote greater understanding of different perspectives and experiences.

For a full calendar of events, click HERE.